I have to share this - I have decided to try OTS queen rearing this year to do splits and I hesitantly did so last Friday on two hives. one was a nuc that came queenless (or so we expected - no brood, larvae or eggs in nuc and just 4 frames of honey and no queen to be found!), and the other was a booming queen with excellent laying pattern we wanted to have daughters out of. We took the queen away with some brood, relocated her 7 hives away, then 12 hours later I notched all the frames I wanted. I shoul dhave checked them earlier but life emergencies didn't allow me to til today. The hive that i made queenless repaired the notches on all but one frame and then drew out some really nice queen cells (some not so nice or large).
The nuc that was queenless repaired every single notch much to my puzzlement. I decided to take the entire hive apart to figure out what was up and the second frame I inspected was full of brand new eggs! It appears the nuc had a queen that was hiding who just stopped laying as she had no room in the nuc after workers filled frames with honey. I have zero complaints.
Now I have to figure out best way to cut out the queen cells as I really want to make 4 splits if possible.
Post by Debbie Lincoln on May 30, 2018 17:29:45 GMT -5
WOW! That is super news. :-) I have given up on bees here. Every hive I had turned aggressive or left. ANd since I’m allergic to bee stings, I just let it go and sold all my bee stuff last fall. It wasn’t worth the frustration. I sure hope the Africans don’t evolve “cold weather tolerance” and your genetics stay calm...
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Post by simplynaturalfarm on May 30, 2018 17:56:57 GMT -5
Well, all but one are nice and the one nuc that I bought (I'm sure it is from TX) is dark and very aggressive. We were moving them and Dh got three stings on his legs through his pants and every time I look the direction of them they get aggressive I'm going to requeen and hope she calms them down. If I became allergic I would get rid of all of them!
Way to go. It's such a cool feeling, isn't it, when things go "as planned." Did you do the notching on foundationless frames? That's what most recommend, so you can cut a square out around the Q cell and move it.
I have done the OTS Q rearing, but have just made splits and let them make their own Q. I was all excited to do exactly what you're doing this year, then we came out of winter with one decent hive and one limping badly. So I ordered 2 Q's and worked with those.
Post by simplynaturalfarm on Jul 7, 2018 12:36:48 GMT -5
No, I dn't do it on foundationless, I couldn't get these bees to draw it out and so gave them drawn comb that was on plastic. I made more splits and went from starting with 4 packages and 1 good nuc up to 18 hives now!
Wow, that's great simplynaturalfarm I've finally got back to 4 hives, but I doubt we'll have any honey this year as it's so dry. Luckily, I took honey off the two deadouts and had a couple frames out of the hive I made splits from, so we have enough for just our household to make it through.
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