Well I guess it's time to think about AIing (?) our jersey. Haven't decided whether I'll just get some from the semen guy who comes around to all the dairies around here or buy some NZ grassfed genetics semen. What do you all know about buying semen? Lol I don't know the first thing! Seeing as we got a bull this year I'd really like to get sexed semen, is that something you can get from a so called NZ genetics source? Is the NZ thing hype or do you think it actually makes cows that don't need much grain (if on good pasture). We live in Wisconsin so we're covered in snow much of the year anyway, so wouldit even make a difference? Would love to hear your thoughts on this. Thanks!
Do you have an AI tech picked out? Which companies do they rep?
"Grazing/grassfed genetics" refer to lines that produce a more moderate amount of milk than mainstream commercial lines. Less milk = less high energy (grain) feeds required, if the forage is excellent quality. Other traits like body depth/capacity, small/moderate stature, high components, feet and legs, fertility, and health are important when selecting for good grazing genetics. Not all of these grazing genetics bulls actually come from pasture-based operations. For example, Select Sires has a list of the top grazing genetics bulls in their lineup, but they are conventionally bred and reared, only selected for the grazing designation based off of the criteria I listed. Whether their daughters actually excell in a pasture-based and low grain setting depends on the management of the dairy.
Other bulls, like the ones offered by LIC NZ, actually come out of herds that are seasonal, grassfed, etc and so the animals should adhere to those traits more strongly. This doesn't mean that all daughters can go no/low grain, but they have a higher likelihood of performing well in this type of operation.
Essentially, a good grazing candidate is one that gives a modest amount of milk - she doesn't produce at the expense of her body condition. If you have a cow that needs a lot of grain for a small/moderate amount of milk, improving your pasture and hay supply is imperative. Genetics can't overcome poor forage. Do keep in mind that most new cows will take years - even a lifetime - to adapt to their new home and forage. So even if your cow has a hard time keeping weight/needs a lot of grain, and daughter of hers (especially if you raise her on ample real milk and don't wean too early) will perform better.
Belle - Normande x Jersey cow Willow - NZ Jersey heifer Pringle and Bandit - heifer calves
You should ask your AI tech what they already have, maybe they already have something you'd want to use.
NZ is not hype, they do make nice cows, though like any breed or company, there are going to be some bulls better than others and some more suited to what you want.
You may also have access to Semex, which sometimes offers some really nice Canadian bloodlines. They're a bit taller and darker colored, but lower production (lower than NZ), good on pasture, long lived, and often high component. Built to survive rugged winters. We love a blend of CAN/AM bloodlines.
Jersey cow family: Samson's Rosita (age 3) & Virtuoso Briar Rose (age 2) An Akita, some kitty cats, 7 Border Leicester sheep & 53 hens
Looks like a Jersey in Canada averages around 7106 kg for 2019 and I think based on 305 days. (15,666 lb. in 2019, 13,638 lb. in 2001) The bulls I'm referring to are older or show genetics, so they reflect differently than above, shave off another 1900-2200#.
NZ 221 days, 3208 liters, 2017/18. (7072 lb but if bumped up to 305, the average would be 4427l or 9760 lb.) NZ did a nice job of separating pure from cross, I don't know if Canada has done similarly or not (the US seems a yucky blend of pure amd cross statistics...)
oh thank you guys! im gonna talk to my neighbor in the next couple days and im gonna keep all this in mind. he told me a while ago which guy he uses but i totally forgot. he gave me the magazine but it is total gibberish to me and my baby ripped it apart anyway so i can't check which company it is lol. it really snuck up on me though i wonder if its too late to order anything other than what he's got available... glad to know tho about the nz lines and that canadian blood lines are good too!
my neighbor was talking about breeding her earlier so that she calves earlier, closer to spring time. I thought that was a good idea. I wish she could be dry during january and february lol! its gonna be so stinkin cold up here. but then thatd mean she'd calve in march and thats a bit too cold to calve isn't it? not that we could get her to that point for a few years anyway. I was also for some reason thinking it was 60 days typically, which if i wanted her to calve a month earlier, that would make it right about now. Glad I still have time! Still need to talk to neighbor and see what company he goes through. Could you guys by chance send a link to where you buy yours? I followed the links but didn't see anywhere to order any.
claytonpaul: A bull was put on her herd Late Last May so she was expected to be due between May1 and August. They quoted me August so I wouldn't be disappointing by a late arrival.
May 23, 2019 13:07:11 GMT -5
Trim: I'm baaaaacccckkkk!
Aug 31, 2019 17:57:22 GMT -5
alpacalexi: My mini jersey cow is pregnant, however the last couple days her udder has deflated. My vet saw her on the 23 and said delivery in a couple weeks Is there a reason for her deflating?
Oct 2, 2019 17:17:00 GMT -5
Trim: She probably aborted a while back. That happened to one of my animals. She was bagging up but within a short while of her "due date" she began to deflate. I had no idea what had happened. I was seriously bummed out.
Feb 8, 2020 20:46:23 GMT -5
mamacherri10: good afternoon! I have not been on the website in a long time. Have a new jersey milk cow and am looking to see how long she needs to be dried up prior to calving? She is due the third week of May.
Mar 10, 2020 14:33:11 GMT -5
steven888: Dry her up now, she needs 6 wks of rest.
Apr 1, 2020 2:05:11 GMT -5
highlandteen: five to six weeks is generally suggested
May 7, 2020 14:39:23 GMT -5
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