Post by saysfaa on Aug 25, 2019 21:35:20 GMT -5
I have about 10 acres to enclose; roughly square shaped area. Hilly, sand with lots of rocks (some really big ones, mostly medium size).
I'm planning to find someone who wants to run cattle on it so it needs to be dependable. I can get electricity to it but not easily and probably not very dependably.
I also need wide-gate access for mowers or brushhogs, and trucks or trailers for the cattle to come and go.
And for hunters - so people-sized access points that are more convenient than the wide gates.
Possibly access for harvesting timber - so at least one gate that is wide enough for that equipment.
I have hedge posts enough for all the corner posts and several end posts but not for all the line posts.
I have enough steel posts for all the line posts.
I have enough pieces of high tensile wire for braces and corrals and such. And probably enough tube insulators.
I have a few steel gates and plan to make the rest of the gates out of wire. It doesn't matter that it is less convenient because they won't be opened very often.
I may have a charger and associated equipment or may not. But either way I'm going to deal with everything to do with the charger next spring - I just want all the posts/wire/gates in this fall.
I have access to some tools: fencing pliers, shov-holer, T- post driver, spinning jenny. The fence stretcher looks great but this is the only fence I'm planning to build so can't justify the price - I plan to build a 2x4 sandwich to stretch the fence.
I know I will need staples for the wood posts, strainers and springs,
I think I want Kencove 9/49/12 fixed-knot woven wire (so 9 horizontal wires, 49" high, with the horizontal wires 12 inches apart. This is class 3 galvanized 12.5 gauge wire with high tensile horizontal wires, solid vertical stays.
And one or two strands of high tensile electric wire. One at the top to keep the cattle off it and maybe one at the bottom to discourage predators.
And possibly a single polyweb for visibility by people, deer, and the cattle... and because I have at least most of what I need to add it.
And enough 12 1/2 gauge double-insulated underground wire to go under the gate openings.
I know I want hedge posts for corners and ends (including brace posts). I think I want hedge for line posts also but I don't want to wait until I can get them so will probably put the steel posts in. Or, maybe the PasturePro (wood/plastic composite) posts if I become more confident they have enough advantages and I don't need too many of them. Has anyone used the PasturePro posts? What do you think of them?
I think I want at least one wide gate at a corner because I might rent to someone close enough to drive the cattle home (or I could funnel them with temporary fences, maybe, but that assumes the renter keeps up with rotations enough that the cattle are fence-broke enough). I don't know where to put the other gates. Does it matter if they are on a slope? Is it an advantage or disadvantage to have them in the middle of a side... enough to shift them from the best route from the road to the pasture since there will be another opening that is in a corner?
How many gates to put in? I would rather have too many than not enough.
Are releasable gripples enough better than knotting or crimp sleeves or non-releasable gripples to be worth the cost?
Has anyone used porcelain insulators? Would you again? Pros and cons (other than not using them at the ends with high tensile because they break under that pressure)?
What else do I need concerning the fencing? - design/plan ideas as well as equipment and supplies.
And, even if it doesn't apply to my situation ... what would you do different if you could build your fences again?
I'm planning to find someone who wants to run cattle on it so it needs to be dependable. I can get electricity to it but not easily and probably not very dependably.
I also need wide-gate access for mowers or brushhogs, and trucks or trailers for the cattle to come and go.
And for hunters - so people-sized access points that are more convenient than the wide gates.
Possibly access for harvesting timber - so at least one gate that is wide enough for that equipment.
I have hedge posts enough for all the corner posts and several end posts but not for all the line posts.
I have enough steel posts for all the line posts.
I have enough pieces of high tensile wire for braces and corrals and such. And probably enough tube insulators.
I have a few steel gates and plan to make the rest of the gates out of wire. It doesn't matter that it is less convenient because they won't be opened very often.
I may have a charger and associated equipment or may not. But either way I'm going to deal with everything to do with the charger next spring - I just want all the posts/wire/gates in this fall.
I have access to some tools: fencing pliers, shov-holer, T- post driver, spinning jenny. The fence stretcher looks great but this is the only fence I'm planning to build so can't justify the price - I plan to build a 2x4 sandwich to stretch the fence.
I know I will need staples for the wood posts, strainers and springs,
I think I want Kencove 9/49/12 fixed-knot woven wire (so 9 horizontal wires, 49" high, with the horizontal wires 12 inches apart. This is class 3 galvanized 12.5 gauge wire with high tensile horizontal wires, solid vertical stays.
And one or two strands of high tensile electric wire. One at the top to keep the cattle off it and maybe one at the bottom to discourage predators.
And possibly a single polyweb for visibility by people, deer, and the cattle... and because I have at least most of what I need to add it.
And enough 12 1/2 gauge double-insulated underground wire to go under the gate openings.
I know I want hedge posts for corners and ends (including brace posts). I think I want hedge for line posts also but I don't want to wait until I can get them so will probably put the steel posts in. Or, maybe the PasturePro (wood/plastic composite) posts if I become more confident they have enough advantages and I don't need too many of them. Has anyone used the PasturePro posts? What do you think of them?
I think I want at least one wide gate at a corner because I might rent to someone close enough to drive the cattle home (or I could funnel them with temporary fences, maybe, but that assumes the renter keeps up with rotations enough that the cattle are fence-broke enough). I don't know where to put the other gates. Does it matter if they are on a slope? Is it an advantage or disadvantage to have them in the middle of a side... enough to shift them from the best route from the road to the pasture since there will be another opening that is in a corner?
How many gates to put in? I would rather have too many than not enough.
Are releasable gripples enough better than knotting or crimp sleeves or non-releasable gripples to be worth the cost?
Has anyone used porcelain insulators? Would you again? Pros and cons (other than not using them at the ends with high tensile because they break under that pressure)?
What else do I need concerning the fencing? - design/plan ideas as well as equipment and supplies.
And, even if it doesn't apply to my situation ... what would you do different if you could build your fences again?