I have a 30+ year old miniature horse, she has not been eating for the past 2 days, has been laying down a lot, and her heart beat is 89 beats per minute! Please help! I don't think she has drank much water. She can go in a pasture but she has not left her stall all day, she usually loves to go out in the field. Belle also has Heaves. Please help! Thank you!!!
Last Edit: Mar 25, 2015 17:00:38 GMT -5 by cowgrrrl
She has been acting healthy up until yesterday. She is probably due to have her teeth done. And no we have not wormed her, we do have a Quest Plus wormer in our barn that I can give to her. She is like 35 years old I think. Thank you!
30 or 35 is REALLY old for a horse, even a mini - her body may just be giving up unfortunately.
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Post by donna12345 on Mar 25, 2015 19:08:53 GMT -5
Take her temp. Don't just worm her now. If another problem you don't want that bothering her. Can you get a vet. See if she will drink water with a little apple juice in it. Some do like apple cider vinegar in water. Can you get some sweet water on to her hay.this will help with heaves. Not much info here.Is she your horse? Is weather changing? Any history? Colic? Is she pooping? Nipping her sides? Temp will say alot.
Post by howlsofangels on Mar 25, 2015 19:47:52 GMT -5
It sounds to me like she is colicking, the faster you act the better. I'd call a vet out asap to have her examined and possibly have her drenched with mineral oil if she hasn't relieved herself in the past two days (it'll move things along). Also, she could use some lactated ringers for the dehydration. Try to keep her up and walking. Give her lots of love and cuddles as she may not make it through if she is colicking.
Thanks for all the help! I will check her poop in the morning. I will call the vet tomorrow. donna12345 I will put some apple cider vinegar in her water, I am out of apple juice. Yes Belle is my horse, I don't think she has ever coliced, and the spring grass is starting to come up and it is getting warmer. She has never really been a sickly horse except for her heaves. Thank again for all the help! Can I take her temp with a human thermometer? I have not noticed her nipping at her self but I will watch out for it. Thanks!!!!
I am sorry to hear about Belle. I too have an old horse that has scared me a couple of times. You can use your human thermometer, put it in a ziplock bag for Belle, or permanently mark it for your critters.
I would think if she was a severe colic she would be trying to roll, and possibly showing more signs of abdominal discomfort. Walking and keeping them from rolling can help. When my older horse went down, she just didn't seem to have the energy to get up by herself. I did have the vet out, and with meds and pain management, we did get her up again. I also agree, skip the deworming for now. If you have Vit B injectable, you can give some IM or SQ, read the bottle for an exact dose. It may help with a boost of energy. If she is wanting to lay flat out, and the vet won't be available until in the morning you might try propping a bale of hay against her side to help keep her more sternal and up on her chest. She is definitely old for a horse, and it may just be her time....I wish you good luck with her whatever the outcome is. Sending hugs your way.
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Post by Debbie Lincoln on Mar 25, 2015 21:46:09 GMT -5
Human thermometer will work - just mark it "for animal use" later! I wish you well with her. I am very attached to my old girl, too.
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32-40 is normal. An 89 would be an *incredibly* painful horse. Just because she isn't rolling doesn't mean she isn't painful - old horses are incredibly stoic. If that heart rate is accurate you need to call a vet NOW.
Check the color of her gums (should be pink, not brown, purple, bright red, or have a line above her front teeth) and how long it takes color to return to her gums if you press on them (should be 1-2 seconds). Check her temp - 99 to 101.5 is normal.
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Post by christybell on Mar 25, 2015 21:54:28 GMT -5
Remember to hold on to the thermometer so you don't lose it. Is there any way to check her sooner? Look for manure and watch for signs of belly pain or discomfort. Kicking or nipping or rubbing at her belly, if she tries to roll often or just can't seem to get comfortable. If so I'd start walking her and call the vet asap. It may just be her time though. I wish you the best.
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:'(Belle has not pooped, and she lays down on her belly with her legs underneath her. She gets up if I walk up to her. The vet is coming in a hour. I will take her temp and put the apple cider vinegar in her water. I will not worm her. I have not seen her roll or lay flat on the ground. I will check her gums to. Thanks for all the support! I will listen to her stomach to see if there are any gurgling sounds. Thanks for all the help I really appreciate it!!!!
I will. The vet called and she had to reschedule the visit until this afternoon. She still has not left her stall and I don't see any poop. I have to buy another thermometer because mine broke. Thanks!
Alright, the vet came and she said to watch her. She wants me to check and see if she poops any tonight and if she does not she is going to have to come back and give her some fluids. She does not think it is colic luckily. She said her stomach might not be handling the spring grass so well. She also wants me to make sure she drinks plenty of water. Her heart beat went down a little, and she heard some stomach sounds. Thanks for all the support!!!!!!
I agree about not worming when she is already under stress. And Quest makes me very nervous. I don't use it. I have a dear friend who wormed her mule with Quest - a perfectly healthy mule, about 27 years old - and the next morning he collapsed and died. The vet said there was no connection, but the coincidence was too much for me. There was no other obvious causative agent.
I had a Belgian mare, 31 years old, who just laid down one day and didn't get up again. We had been struggling to keep condition on her for a good while, and she eventually just let me know that she was done.
You could try some molasses in the water with the vinegar and see if she will drink more. I also have a recipe for putting condition on an old horse, but that probably isn't what you need right now.
Like dmbenson said, I wish you peace, whatever the outcome.
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