My problem is I can not get barley here. I am very limited on what we have available. Most farmers feed silage around here. We're the number one producer I think in the country for soybeans, too! Could I do corn, oats, and shredded beet pulp instead of the barley? I gave her the shot of b complex at noon and offered the corn/dairy pellet feed and she didn't eat any. She is mainly just eating a good quality alfalfa/grass hay and pasture. Is it safe to put the calf back on her at this point? I believe she's still giving about 6 gallons a day. We've been feeding the calf a bottle three times a day. He's been eating pasture and hay great and water, too on his own from the goat's water source. He's even picked a bit at their grain ration when I feed them. Would he get sick if he had access to her all the time? What about mastitis problems with her? I'm sure she would take him back since she moos when she sees him or even our goat that is the same color as him. I feel way over my head at this point.
Tonight she didn't eat any grain at all again. Joe said he put out a pan of every type of grain mix we have and nothing. She's not acting sick, the vet had checked her (on both visits), no DA, no fever, no problems felt internally. I do not know what to do now at all. I'm afraid she's going to get sick and die before we figure this out. We are not enjoying our first milking cow experience at all. My one goat right now is giving me over a gallon a day, so I am not concerned how much milk I get from DD. Of course, after all this expense, I'd like to get something, but honestly right now I'm just worried about losing her. How much longer can this go on before it either resolves or she dies?? I think we are going to lock the two cows together into the barn so they will eat the good quality hay, maybe the pasture isn't as good as I think. The two of them stress out if they're not together. I've been reading so much about ketosis, my head is spinning and it's all way over my head technically and now I'm worried about her developing the DA from the ketosis. Lord help me!
I just got DD in the stanchion again and she ate the corn and dairy pellet mix, it was the only one she has any interest in. It is mostly corn if that makes any difference, and is 18% protein with the corn mixed in per the feed guy. She has definitely lost weight though since the start of the week. I wish this would get better!
beet pulp is considered both a energy food and a forage so would be fine to feed is she will eat it. -Jenn
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Post by hazelsmilker on Jun 25, 2010 22:27:37 GMT -5
The corn, oats, and shredded beet pulp will be great for her. If she is eating the corn and dairy mix, that's good. Can you increase the corn in the mix? We hear your frustration. Six gallons! Wow! This is one of the problems; she's producing ketones when she pulls the energy from her body to make that milk. Just keep on with the drench and offering carbs. How many pounds of corn do you think that she is eating? And of the dairy mix?
How is she acting? Is she acting dull, wild, or just like usual? Ketotic cows can be very dull, or the ketones can make them quite wild. If she is just a little down, that's probably a sign that she will be over it soon.
I thought I had posted a response to this, but don't see it come up, so here it is again. Sometimes DD just looks at the grain, like this morning when Joe was milking her, didn't touch it. I went out two hours later and she wolfed down at least five pounds of the old goat grain mix, which is corn/oats/boss/beet pulp/dairy pellet. So I don't know what's up with that. She really has never been very symptomatic through all this. Maybe just a little down. Maybe she has been a little wild as she hasn't wanted to come to us at all which is very unlike her. She used to love to be brushed and pampered, I just attributed it to pregnancy hormones. She still bellows at the calf or the goat that is the same color as the calf whenever she sees him in the other pasture. He doesn't pay her any attention though. He has kind of adopted that same colored goat as his mom except for when we have the bottle, then he knows where the food is. If she's not over this soon I'm still tossing around the idea of just putting the calf back with her. But I don't know about the milking part of it then or if it's safe for him to just go back with her. Would he get scours or bloat if he had free access to her? What about mastitis for her? We'd still have to milk her, so I don't know if there would be any benefit to putting them back together, it was so horrible to milk her when they were together. Still haven't caught a pee from her to recheck her, but her breath is smelling better again.
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