Post by merginmunger on Jan 3, 2010 12:18:39 GMT -5
We have a surge milker with the old style pulsator, working just fine. I bought some new inflations this summer to replace our old ones. Mr Hamby said inflations ought to be new about every 3 months. We went longer than that and just switched yesterday. It used to take just seconds to install and remove the inflations in and from the teat cups. I take them apart after each milking to wash all the parts. These new ones are tough and killing my hands and arms!! It took two of us this morning to get the inflations all the way in the teat cups. It takes me most of the time out milking just setting up and tearing down now. Anything I can do to help break them in? They are also very difficult to get on and off the lid.
Thanks for any advice you might have for me. Dona
Last Edit: Dec 15, 2010 20:12:17 GMT -5 by barnydhppy
Hmm, 3 months? nah, not here. In the 5 years I used my surge, I replaced the inflations a (gasp!) 3 times!!!!! That was only after seeing the some rubber cracking on the outside. The inside was pristine. THere was no issue with the vaccuum. In dairies I'm sure there is a need to replace inflations more often but for the Family Milk Cow? Not so often.
There is no reason to remove the rubber inflations from the metal teat cups. Nothing gets between the rubber and the metal. The milk flows inside the inflations. All you need is an inflations scrub brush, any of the suppliers have them for a few bucks. here is a link: [url=http://hambydairysupply.com/xcart/product.php?productid=59&cat=119&page=2 ]hambydiarysupply[/url]The surge is the easiest milker to clean (only exception is a sS bucket for hand milking!). All you need to do is after pouring the milk out is run luke warm water inside the can, then soap it up, rinse, hang up. The lid with pulsator and inflations is easy also. You don't want to be getting water in the pulsator but if you take a small bucket of warm water and saop you can dunk the inflations in this for some cleaning, run the brush through the inflations, wash the rubber seal. Do a quick rinse with hot water, being careful not to get water up in the pulsator (just it will cause it to gum up). Then hang to dry. Really it is easy, no taking it all apart - it is one the reasons it is popular after all these decades of use. There is also no reason to mess with the air hoses, they are a closed system and no milk gets in them. All the removing the rubber from the cups will just destroy the inflations way to early. They are made to fit tightly anyways. Hope this helps.
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Last Edit: Mar 1, 2011 19:34:33 GMT -5 by barnydhppy
Post by springvalley on Jan 4, 2010 21:44:26 GMT -5
Tricia; I want to challenge your best milker statement, I really like my DeLaval milker, and I grew up using the Surge milkers, and I would never go back. I think mine is just as easy to wash, but it is all personal preferance. Thanks Marc.
Post by merginmunger on Jan 4, 2010 23:40:21 GMT -5
Thanks Tricia. So we've started leaving the inflations in the teat cups. These were much tighter than our old ones that came with the milker from Ebay. One of them actually let water get in between while washing. They were easy to remove, so we did. Mr. Hamby told me to take them all apart, so that is what we've been doing. But these new ones seem very snug and not likely to let water in during washing.
As for the water getting between the metal teat cup and the rubber, all I can think of was the metal was a narrow bore - usually for heifers ore just small teated cows. And the rubber for a larger sized? There are different sizes of the metal teat cups. I didn't know this until a friend who is also a collector gave us a Surge set up with narrow bore metal teat cups for a new to milking heifer I had. So maybe that is going on? Anyone else? I will try to remember in the morning to measure the teat cups on the Surge I have on the shelf downstairs so you can compare.
You do not have to tear milkers down after each milking. Wash in hot water and rinse , air dry. Change your inflation's every 30 days. The way you break in new ones is milk with them day after day, change every 30 days.
i own a 350 cow dairy farm. i milk 300 of them in freestalll/parlor the other 50 are registerd and my top of the line cows. i milk the 50 with 4 surge bucket milkers and i can tell you anything you ever want to know about them. as far as the water getting between the inflation and shell that is normal i deal with it everyday. how u get the water out is u just flip up the top of the inflation with one finger just enough to let air in between the inflation and shell and the water will come out of the hole where the rubber hose goes on from the pulsator. there is absolutly no reason to pull inflation out unless you are changing it. and as far as how long you keep them in i would go at least 6 months if u r only milking 1 or 2 cows. i go 3 months because of the number of cows i milk. no more than 6 months though because they will get "dryrot". if you ever have any ?"s on these milkers please ask i have tons of knowledge withthem. to the person that said change them every 30 days? (thats just crazy) i change my inflations every 30 days in the parlor with 300 cows milking 3 times a day.
Post by merginmunger on Jan 17, 2010 0:35:09 GMT -5
Update on breaking in these new inflations... Milking was much slower and not very complete with these new ones. We gave up and started using the old ones again. (They are only 6 months old and are only being used on 1 cow.) She milks out faster and more completely. What am I to think? When these wear out, where do I get the same kind? These new ones I got from Hamby. I told him what was written on the old ones and he said these would be the ones to replace them. I think they say MAES 221 or something like that. I'd have to go out to the barn to check for sure, though.
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