Post by DostThouHaveMilk on Nov 30, 2005 19:38:40 GMT -5
We aim to have the vet assistant out to burn the calves' horns at under two weeks. Usually within the first week. Though if there is another animal due we will hold off. I don't like letting it go more than a month though. The school let's thiers go as long as four months and then the horns have to be scooped out kinda. Very ugly. Within the first week tends to be the best, but you have to be able to feel the bud and the person doing the burning needs to be skilled.
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I feed Katika a giant coffee can of dry alfalfa cubes (plus lots of other stuff) AM & PM. She quickly figured out they were good and eats them right up. Not with the enthusiasm she has for grain, but she definitely likes them.
I've had two different experiences with horn burning. Here is something I posted in January, when Ferdinand, my bottle bull calf, was 7 weeks old. (My vet recommended burning at 8 weeks; I pushed for it to be slightly earlier.):
"It is so cold here that the vet did not want to knock Ferdinand out for the horn burning -- thought it might be too dangerous. So he just shaved the site, gave him big shots of lidocaine in each side of his poll, then burned the horn buds. All went well but it was clearly very uncomfortable. I will want to remember for next time to have a bottle of warm milk replacer ready to give the calf after. Looking at Ferdy's woeful little face with big scorch marks, I was so strongly reminded of how I used to whisk both my children under my shirt for a quick nurse after every first-year vaccination. The howls and hiccupy tears would soon stop with every suck, suck, suck! Ferdinand could have used some of that nursing comfort. I wish I'd thought to bring the bottle."
(Obviously with a cow-raised calf, you'd just let him back in with his mama for the same nursing comfort.)
My second experience was with Spanky, Katika's calf, in August. Here is what I posted then:
"After having had Ferdinand's horns burned in January -- a successful but very sobering experience to watch -- I did a bunch of reading on dehorning. Recent studies have estimated and compared pain for the calf with the various methods. (They judged the calf was in pain from head shaking, etc.) It was found that for calves dehorning paste at a young age was the least stressful method. The paste scares me, though, so I was reluctant until I found the following website
[url=http://bellefourchedexters.tripod.com/Articles/dehorning.htm ]Dehorning using Paste/Duct tape[/url]
Everything she says in this made sense to me. I called Nasco and ordered the paste (which is a HAZMAT so can't be sent overnight mail!) and on Friday I treated Spanky at 8 days old. First I shaved the hair over his horn buds, then, using a popsicle stick, I applied the paste, then I covered the whole thing with a precut piece of duct tape, like a wide head band. (It was good that I precut the duct tape because the caustic paste obviously burns painfully and within 30 seconds Spanky had started to wiggle and try to rub his head.) Then I released him to go back to the others. It was no fun watching him shake his head, obviously it hurt. But in less than an hour he had stopped showing any reaction and was back to normal. I liked the fact that I didn't have to separate him for a lengthy period (causing more stress); the whole procedure took five minutes. The duct tape works like a charm -- covers everything safely and doesn't move at all. I am going to leave it on for two weeks and then remove it, hopefully with the shed horn buds attached. I will let everyone know if it works."
Looking back, my experience is that the same good results can be achieved less painfully by simply wiping the paste off after ten minutes. In case of any residue, I would still use the duct tape if the calf were not with his mama. If he were back with his mother I would run the duct tape all the way around the head and then remove it after a day. Leaving it on was traumatic for me because after about two weeks the tape suddenly disappeared one night. I was paranoid that Katika had ingested it, and in fact it never turned up.
I try to learn to do smaller vet jobs by myself simply because it is so very expensive to have the vet out -- a 45 minute drive for them one-way, so $50 for the farm call, plus the procedure, plus the time.
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Thank you thank you thank you for finding and posting that article, and your experience, Selden! I was worried about having to invest in an electric disbudder, as, if everything goes right, I'm going to have a whole bunch of horned calves (all dexter but one!) next year to figure out how to dehorn. Now I'll just need a tube of paste and a roll of duct tape! Love it!
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