My jersey is 6 years old and never has given more then 3 gallons a day! Whats with the 5-6 gallons a day some of you guys get? About 6 months into lactation I am only getting not even 2 gallons a day. Could it be using a machine decreases milk output? We have black tubes and can't see when she is done. We leave the machine on 10 minutes or so. Is that enough? She gets dairy 16 and good alfalfa with each milking. Towards the end it seems hardly worth the effort. Any ideas? We live in the Portland/Vancouver area. Anyone have a cow for sale that gives lots of milk?
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Post by DostThouHaveMilk on Feb 13, 2006 23:02:37 GMT -5
10 minutes is way too long to be leaving the milker on. This could be causing her production to be low because her teats are stressed.
She should be milked out in 2-3 minutes tops. Some even quicker.
The machine should actually increase production since her body doesn't have to keep releasing hormones for let down. It will strip her of her milk when her body is in full let down. The half life of oxytocine is pretty quick. With your inflations (black tubes) you can pinch the tubes below the shell (thing the inflation goes in, generally stainless steel). Pinch it for a whole rotation of pulses from the machine. If the quarter is not done you can feel the milk streaming through. How much feed (pounds) is she receiving? Is her calf still on her? What is her breeding if you know?
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you need to get a clear milk tube on from claw to bucket so you can see when she runs out milk also you can watch tube as you pull down on each inflation to make sure each teat is empty yes as Rosanna said way to long you can give her matasis by milking to long also the pressure needs to be right under 14.5 pounds to much will hurt and to little will leave some in there...but on some my cows it does take 7 minute to drain them....john
Post by DostThouHaveMilk on Feb 13, 2006 23:29:08 GMT -5
Dad corrected me on what I had said. He said a cow giving that amount shouldn't take more than 3 minutes. Dad tries to train ours to milk out in three. Some, like Essie who is producing 90 pounds of milk a day as a three year old..she takes more than three minutes to milk out.
It may take a little bit to train the cow to milk out in less than ten minutes if you have been leaving it on for ten minutes now. When a heifer or cow first comes fresh dad won't leave the milker on for over a count of 180. It helps to train them to let down more quickly.
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Feeding alfalfa and molasses not only increases the cream line and volume for my cows, but gives it a much fuller bodied flavour. Fat Sally doesn't eat a lot of it in one sitting (unlike my other cows!) so I feed her some a few hours before milking when I separate her from her calf and again whilst I milk. She's only consuming about 2 or 3 cups per day but this amount makes a big difference.
I'm only taking a few litres of milk from her each day and leave the rest for her calf so I don't know how long it would take to empty her udder.
I also have a clear hose so can see how the milk's flowing. I do remember from the past when milking other cows right out, that the noise of the machine changes when the milk stops flowing. Have you not noticed this?
Maybe your cow is a naturally lower producing cow. You could try upping her alfalfa intake. It is certainly well known for increased volume.
Be sure to let us know if anything we suggest gets an increase in volume
Midge New Zealand Devoted Milkmaid of Ellie and Head Cow of 10 glorious small Jersey nurse-cows.
Actually, I have the pressure set to 9 pounds. Is that too low? I have an under the belly machine that I actually set on a 2 by 4. Do the inflations tubes need to be pretty straight as they milk her? I don't like not seeing whats going on with the milk. Am willing to replace the black tubing with clear. Can I do that myself or do I need to send it away? I live in the Portland/Vancouver area. Will hand milk after she calves until school starts in september. My 13 year old boy does the milking. He'll be pleased to know about decreasing the milking time. If they are not stripped dry though, do we hand strip them til they are? Seems like her back ones are never quite milked out.
I can't help you with the milk output since neither one of my girls is milking right now. But as far as the tubes are concerned I think you can get them in Chehalis at The Farm Store. It's about 2 hours north of you. You can probably get them someplace down in Vancouver as well, but I have no idea where. PM me if you want and I'll get the # for you so you can call them before you drive up.
Post by hazelsmilker on Feb 14, 2006 11:31:13 GMT -5
I'm in Corvallis. There's a great small company that does mail-order dairy supply in the area. (Gresham I think.) It's Wiggins Inc. Do a search with Wiggins and dairy supply; it should show up. I think that the owner answers the phone, and can give very helpful advice. I think he was formerly a (cow) dairyman and is currently milking goats. Do you have a Surge belly pail? For about $100 you can get new silicone (clear) inflations and shells for it. They should last you a couple of years and it's a lot easier to see what's going on. If you have a bucket milker, a new milk tube will be a cheaper way to go.
I confess to having one of those high producing Jersey's. Hazel is giving me about 5 gallons a day, and her 10 week old calf is getting all he wants as well. (I would guess 3 to 4 gallons a day.) It's a big responsibility. It's not what I expected when my daughter brought her home as a 4-H heifer calf at 1-2 weeks old. I don't feed her the dairy mix, but wet COB (corn, oats, barley with molasses). The dairy mix that is sold here has as a first ingredient grain BYPRODUCTS, not grain. Hazel needs the carbohydrates in the grain itself. I learned this the hard way with a couple of bouts with ketosis. You might try getting a bag of the wet COB and substituting it for part of the dairy mix and see what happens. Make feed changes gradually though, so you don't throw your cow off feed. I also supplement with alfalfa pellets, alfalfa cubes, sunflower seeds, and beet pulp. And kelp meal of course!
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