Post by DostThouHaveMilk on Jan 31, 2006 18:49:36 GMT -5
Speak to me of your preferences when it comes to castrating...as well as the timing there-of. We have two bull calves (Libertad's born 11/15 and Carina's born 12/24) that have been fed junk milk. At this stage no one is likely to want to pay what we would ask. I had hoped to raise some beef for us and these have been a good option. They are on a lot of milk right now and some hay. Neither has been castrated yet though and I was told it is too late for banding but that seems odd. They will be castrated because we don't want them breeding the ladies at 8 months or younger..lol I am hoping for a bull calf out of Sandy for that purpose. Libertad's has to be slaughtered by 15 months and I don't know what will happen with Carina's. In any case I need to decide what we are doing. The vet assistant has to be out for disbudding kids so having him cut them is an option but that can be costly. Is it too late to band?
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I like the bloodless castration. I had our bull calf done at 9 weeks- along with his dehorning. I don't know if there is a time limit on it- I think there are 2 types of tools that can be used and one only works up to a certain size. In the James Herriot books he talks about doing bloodless castrations on yearling bulls- I think with an emasculator. My vet prefers this method because of the lack of trauma and actual cutting.
Since its winter (or at least supposed to be!) and the temperatures are cool and there aren't any bugs you can always have the vet assistant do the actual slicing and removal method.
Roseanna like she said all you have to do is get them pull thought the band i have done it on 400 lbs bulls no problem some i had to pull one at a time...if you pull one in then push the other one thought works best.....i cut mine now but the bander was cheap and faster then cutting one out in the field the day they were born........jersey bulls should not be a problem at that age.....just make sure you get both of them you can release the bander and feel to check to make sure you have both if not you can reopen and push the other one though.........john
I castrated Spanky at one month with a bander. I had only banded lambs and didn't really grasp how BIG calves testicles are. I thought I had both but only had one. So Spanky is what my vet calls "a short scrotum job." One testicle and the scrotum are gone. The other testicle is up by his belly. He'll be sterile but unfortunately he's still a bull. My vet has offered to come out and do surgery but instead I will probably put him in the freezer in the spring time. He is as big as Ferdinand was already, and he does not have Ferdinand's leading/halter manners. I couldn't lead him anywhere, I know.
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Post by simplynaturalfarm on Jan 31, 2006 21:24:36 GMT -5
There have actually been quite a few studies comparing the effects of timing and method of castration. The general consensus is that castrating younger is the best option as far as morbidity, ADG, etc. As for castrating older calves, most all studies show that bulls castrated at an older age have lower ADG than steers and some studies show higher morbidity. THe studies showed no difference between banding and surgical at a young age (2-3 months), but either method was preferred to banding at weaning. Knife castration is preferred also to banding older bulls and is corroborated in a lot of studies. Castrating older calves (either way) always decreases ADG. One vet said that in his own experiments (done on 100 2-5 day old Holstein calves), in every case the knife cut calves weighed from 10 to 15 pounds more at 5 weeks of age. The knife cut had a lower morbidity and mortality rate than the banded calves.
So to sum up what I've read, castrate young if possible (under 2 months); if not, surgical castration, skillfully done, is much preferred over banding of large bulls.
The beef folks that I used to associate with (before the move), always banded if the calf was under 300 lbs and always cut if the calf was over 300 lbs. For the larger calves, make sure and give a tetanus shot when the band goes on (larger testicles makes for more tissue that could generate tetanus).
Personally, I prefer to band -- preferably during the first week. I, myself, go to cutting at 200 lbs.
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