Post by August Moon Farm on Aug 14, 2019 14:02:51 GMT -5
Cow was grazing, the heifer came up behind her and mounted the cow, the cow started to move forward and the heifer stayed on top of her and the cows rear end collapsed and the heifer rode her to the ground . The cow has been dominate but a couple weeks ago the heifer started to assert herself
Post by Meadow Creek Mama on Aug 14, 2019 14:23:29 GMT -5
Were you able to get some Bovicalc ordered with the gun? I like that stuff. But I always tell people after a bad experience we had with it once...check the gun to make sure it went down the cow. Sometimes the bolus sticks in there when it gets slobber on it and can be tricky to dislodge from the gun. It was the middle of the night when we had to give the dose and weren't paying attention after struggling to get the bolus down. Cow was acting funny the next day, decided to give her a second dose and low and behold, the first bolus has almost glued into the gun from all the slobber in the struggle to get in in the night before. No wonder she was going down...she never got her first dose!
Glad you got some answers and hoping for the best over there!
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Post by August Moon Farm on Aug 16, 2019 10:56:31 GMT -5
Elsa went down last night. I was up with her all night. Vet was here today at 8am decided after much consultation to take her to new Bolton animal hospital loading her just about killed us the vet and her 6 students are taking great care of her. Elsa is getting the Family cow treatment. They induced labor to get the calf out should deliver Sunday morning she is on iv electrolytes no broken bones waiting for blood work to see if there is any muscle damage. She may go in a flotation tank after calving Now I go home to a crazy heifer who is all alone
I'm so glad to hear she's in good hands. Hoping for the best possible outcome for you!! Crazy lonely heifers are no joke
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Post by August Moon Farm on Aug 18, 2019 10:11:35 GMT -5
Update. Elsa stood on her own Sat morning and has been getting up and down since then without any significant issues. They injected her to get her to deliver her calf friday afternoon and said she would birth 24-36 hrs. Its been 45hrs. I visited her and she looks good and is inhaling the hay I brought from home. I have been reading many posts on this site and there are many horror stories of cows being injured from either being mounted or mounting other cows. It appears the only way to be absolutely safe is to keep everyone separated but that is not very practical. I decided to force a cycle on my heifer and breed her on a schedule since I do not want her mounting Elsa again. The Vets believe the problem with Elsa started with a pinched nerve after evaluating the pictures I took of her . Due to the issues Elsa had is she done as far as breeding her again?
Post by mommasquilts on Aug 18, 2019 12:32:56 GMT -5
Not necessarily. See how she does over the next several months. I had an old cow (17-18 yrs) who was injured during a hurricane who limped for months, but delivered a beautiful calf and did well by it. She was sold because she came up open.
We had a young cow get a pinched nerve in a similar situation.
She calved just fine and was on "bed rest" (in a box stall of her own) for several days. She went on to have several more lactations and her injury never returned once she got over it.
My advice to you would be to give her an easy place to sleep (like a box stall or open pen with cushy straw bedding on a firm floor), keep her away from danger of further injury (isolated for now, perhaps), and to just be patient on the calf, it should come in its own time and be ok.
Post by westxgrl13 on Aug 18, 2019 18:24:53 GMT -5
Best news of today!!! So glad all is OK. I thought maybe the calf would be born dead, just to get it out of your cow so she could start healing up! What a story--hope to hear that Elsa gets better every day until the horror of the last few days is a distant, vague memory!!!
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So sorry, I understand this has been difficult to endure, She was given dexamethasone to induce no doubt, and the calf had lungs well developed enough to survive. This is a plus. My first experience with a pinched nerve wasn't even correctly diagnosed. A vet over the phone in Pennsylvania finally got it right. Since then I've gotten plenty of experience with it, not as a lethal condition at calving but as a situation you can handle with planning. I have a cow who calved four times with a pinched nerve, after being told she wouldn't survive the first encounter. Banamine, hip lift, preparation. You have to be available to assist. Glad this has ended well this round.
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Post by August Moon Farm on Aug 22, 2019 14:53:53 GMT -5
Update, Elsa is strong and stable a a couple days after the induced labor. Then a touch of milk fever. today ketosis and a partially retained placenta(no Fever) calf is doing well. Both are still at New Bolton Center. This was a cow that was perfectly healthy first 2 calves on her own . Then everything goes wrong. She has been living on pasture with supplements. The vet is currently feeding her two types of hay and Dairy Feed. I am at a loss for what is going on.... this is all very discouraging.
The induced labor could be creating all those side effects.
It's just a case of one thing gone wrong that dominoes into a bunch of things. If you get her on the mend from this, which it sounds like she is, I bet she'll come back and be a perfectly normal cow, as long as she's kept away from anyone wanting to jump on her in the future.
claytonpaul: A bull was put on her herd Late Last May so she was expected to be due between May1 and August. They quoted me August so I wouldn't be disappointing by a late arrival.
May 23, 2019 13:07:11 GMT -5
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