Post by elitefarms on Aug 10, 2019 18:01:27 GMT -5
I'm trying to ai my cow in the next day or so and am trying to figure out when it's possible for her bull calf to breed her, he's currently 5 months old and is fairly large 600-700 lbs according to the weight tape. He is following her around and mounting her. I want to know if I should seperate them or if I can leave them together while she's in heat.
Post by milkmachine on Aug 10, 2019 19:09:30 GMT -5
I'd separate. Rather be safe than surprised. I had a Dexter bull that was maybe 10 months old, 600-700lbs? and he successfully bred my 3 year old Dutch Belted cow. They can sometimes figure out that if the tall one stands in a low area or the short one stands on higher ground they can make it work. I don't know when a bull calf is fertile but I wouldn't take a risk.
I agree that it's better to separate than be surprised. 5 months is a little young for bull to be viable, but he sounds very well-grown and early-maturing, so I suppose it is possible.
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Ok thank you! I was leaning towards seperating them but didn't want to cause stress if I didn't need to, when the cow is alone how do you know when she was in standing heat? I seperated her before she was standing and put her with a heifer instead but just wondering, in case the heifer doesn't mount her and rub off her heat patch.
They are both ayrshires.this is him next to a 9 month old beef bull
This was him next to his mom at 3 and a half months.
five months old and 600 pounds is plenty viable to breed. I once had a five month old MS bull breed a small cow. They figure it out. If I understand right, you want to AI breed her and avoid what would be line breeding to have her bull calf breed her. You'll be able to tell if he has "reach" If he's been allowed access while she's in heat, you might wait until her next cycle to be sure she hasn't already been bred- after you separate them. p.s. line breeding is not so bad for a single generation
Last Edit: Aug 11, 2019 11:33:50 GMT -5 by brigitte
when the cow is alone how do you know when she was in standing heat?
Most cows are quite vocal when in heat, they'll bellow and moo an unusual amount. They may try to jump on you. A heifer should definitely react to another cow in heat (doesn't take a male to get them excited...lol). A cow in milk will often drop in milk production for one or two milkings. Sometimes the slick is visible and the vulva may get puffy.
Post by elitefarms on Aug 12, 2019 16:19:01 GMT -5
Good to know! She was in standing heat this morning and was attempting to mount my heifer I moved with her and she's getting bred tonight 😊 how long should I wait to put her back with her baby after getting bred? I was thinking to put her back tomorrow afternoon? Or should I wait longer?
claytonpaul: A bull was put on her herd Late Last May so she was expected to be due between May1 and August. They quoted me August so I wouldn't be disappointing by a late arrival.
May 23, 2019 13:07:11 GMT -5
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