Hello. I am planning on breeding my Jersey in april/June and wondered if anyone has ever bred jerseys with Dexter or have an opinion about it. I want to breed her to a beefy or duel breed to get a meatier calf but I'm also hesitant since she is on the small side. She has had one calf- full jersey- with no problems. There is a local farm that has Dexters that I might stop by to talk to. I saw they have at least one bull from driving by and he is on the smaller side. The idea of not having to deal with AI would be nice but I will do that depending on the options.
can you define small weight height? One persons small is another persons large. I would hate to say all Dexters are small anymore. there are still small Dexters out there but do to crossbreeding there are also ones that are now not much difference then Angus. They are also some pretty heavy birth weights happening in some of them.
I would agree most dexters would be fine on most Jerseys. I would want to know how big of Jersey we are talking about before I say that. People are now seeing 80 + pound calves in some "Dexters" and having to have c sections done because of it. also loosing cows and calves because of it. I would not say it is the norm but is starting to happen with some frequency.
Post by simplynaturalfarm on Feb 8, 2019 10:31:19 GMT -5
Yikes!!! I've calves Dexter's for 19 years and not had an assisted one yet. I'd be mighty unhappy to start now!
Out of curiosity, what heights are the big Dexters?
I've always been astounded at the breeders who put Angus bulls over their Dexter cows (and sell them at auction for good prices), but purebreds reaching Angus kind of defeats the purpose of Dexter's. I guess breeds morph constantly ( not for the better always!)
not put a tape on them but. I do show. mine are a nice medium size not to small not to big. Many are easily a foot taller than mine. I here of hanging weights over 700 lbs at 18 months. Unfortunately what wins at shows is big and that is what some are breeding for. There are many out there that are not breeding for ever increasing size but the trend now does seem to be moving to bigger and bigger.
People are now seeing 80 + pound calves in some "Dexters" and having to have c sections done because of it. also loosing cows and calves because of it. I would not say it is the norm but is starting to happen with some frequency.
I have not heard of this before, the largest calf I've heard of is 60 lbs. Nor have I read anything on the over 15 Dexter boards or forums I am on. I have been breeding Dexters for close to 18 years and only had to assist with one calf, in which the mother could have probably had herself. That is out of over 170 calves born on our ranch. You also mentioned "Starting to happen with some frequency". Please point me to the facts.
Thanks for all the replies. As far as size goes I will try to measure the height of my Jersey later today. The people I bought her from tried to say she was a miniature but I don't believe that. Especially with no papers but she is a little smaller than a standard Jersey. Maybe just a runt but ill try to measure her height for a better idea. I don't have a measure tape for weight. As far as size on the bull I saw I can't say for sure. I just happened to see him in the field when I dove by. To me he looked smaller than a normal bull but I can't really say what size exactly. Thank you for advice about the Dexters. As with any breed I'm sure their are some bigger and some smaller. I don't know the people and just planned on stopping in sometime to talk to them. I will be sure to ask what the average birth weights are for them.
I have a 'bigger Dexter' and a small one. My bigger 800 pounds is very short but has full sized calves with a Hereford. When you look at your Jersey ignore height and look at her pelvis width. Very short cows can safely deliver big calves, even easier than big tall cows if the tall one has a narrow pelvis and the shortie has a wide one. Ask the bull's owner about whether he is calving ease, but look for yourself. Pass if the bull is big-headed and coarse looking. LBW doesn't necessarily mean calving ease. If the bull is a true CE bull he'll have a refined elegant look not a big hammer head and thick bones.
My jerseys are smaller. One is 47 inches and one is 48. They are 850 and 950. Now 3 year olds bred to a beef shorthorn. Last year as 1st calf heifers they had 1/2 beef shorthorn heifers. 77 and 81 pounds. Had them easy on their own with us watching. Once your jersey has had a calf they should be able to birth a pretty big calf. Jerseys are known as the queens of calvers for a reason. She would do fine breeding to a dexter. You could breed her to an Angus or red polled bull and get a nice calf too. I would stay away from Hereford as some have really big heads.
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