any one have any reviews on the nose rings for calves? anyone had success? recommend certain type? avoid certain type? thank you kindly, Heather
Heather....mother of Abbey Jane and Noah Joseph and happily married to Chris. We have a beef and hay ranch in SW Idaho. Three beautiful Jersey's: Hailey Holly (daughter of Hailey with horrific udder...no ligament:() and now Sonia a gorgeous spotted heifer due Nov 09
So I guess that $2-something I just spent on the plastic spikey nose ring was a waste of money? Oy vey!
Oh, well, we're making some new little cow and calf paddocks/pastures (they're bigger than a paddock), so I suppose when weaning time comes, I can separate them. We're putting field fencing up around them so the calf can't get out when she (I'm hopeful it's a she) is still little. Think that will keep her from nursing when she's older?
I thought the little plastic doohickey sounded too good to be true.
We had the same type, plastic with spikes. We never tried it on the calf when she was small but after they had been separated for a winter (they could still lick each other over the fence, just no nursing) or 9 months we wanted to put them together on the same pasture and lo and behold that HUGE calf started nursing again. She was really tearing up Bella's teats so in desperation we got the nose ring thingy and it worked like a charm. It was also useful for managing the calf who was very large and not at all tame in times of vet calls, moves, etc... Eventually she did lose it but by the really didn't nurse again.
So that's our story, it worked for us but she was already big and I bet Bella (her mom) was looking for any excuse to kick her off the teat!
You can always try it after they have been separated for a while, by then the mom might have lost her nursing desire and her refusal to stand will probably help more than anything. Good luck!
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Post by buxombeefcowdairy on Jul 9, 2007 19:30:43 GMT -5
We use them on beef cows who like a little milkshake with their clover... We buy the metal nose-piercing ones with spikes. The cows who ALLOW the other cows to steal milk make me the maddest! But the spikes do work just fine until they wear out after a couple of years. We haven't tried them on calves, but I think the others have a good point: they won't work well if both the cow and the calf really want to nurse.
199 Angus Beef cows, 1 Jersey cow 3 horses One Border Collie
The green plastic weaners from Valley Vet work great for us. I used them to stop Pixie from sucking herself and from sucking Fancy. And they're working just great to stop these 9 month old heifers from sucking. The trick is to not tighten them down, only tighten them enough that they won't fall out -- they need to "float" loose in the nose. If they're too tight, the calf is able to flip them up over the nose, or off to the side -- if they're adjusted properly though, they may flip up or to the side, but they won't stay there. They'll fall back into position before the calf has time to latch onto a teat. They also need to be put in with the points upward -- the opposite of what the picture shows. With the points upward it pokes the cow and discourages her from wanting the calf to suck.
I've had good luck with the green ones, too. The metal ones tend to break the plastic balls of the nose tips and then fall out. My Holstein has been wearing his since March, we call it his "jewelry". It also makes their nose tender so they don't like getting kicked either. You can see my steer on the right with his in. He's 1 yo.
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RIP to these special ones:
Belle & Emma (Jersey) Brody (Doberman) Lady (Holstein) Poco (QH) Skittles (pony)
Is it the best way to handle a bull with a nose ring and what are other alternatives?
They are talking about weaning rings in this post, you might want to start a new thread with Bull rings, two very different subjects. If you are talking about the weaning rings I love the green one best.
Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass, It's about learning to dance in the rain.
We put the green one in Elvis's nose when he was 3 months old, and it's still there, working like a charm! It did come out twice, having gotten caught in the automatic waterer, but I got it right back in. Ann B is right, don't tighten it very much so it's floppy & always in the way.
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Post by udderchaos on Apr 29, 2014 20:30:36 GMT -5
I used the plastic yellow ones with spikes....I used them on 4 different calves. One time it broke and we had to replace it, but other than that there was never any sucking going on here....maybe they just weren't smart enough to flip them up!lol! I noticed they had a little trouble eating hay for the first couple days, then they didn't even notice it.
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I used one on Ziggy, he was about 7 mths old. Plastic one with spikes, did the job.
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