I have a sick week old calf. The vet prescribed Sustain III boluses (two of them). I just looked up the medication on the internet, and it says not to give to non-ruminating calves, or calves on an all milk diet.
What should I do? The vet knew the age of the calf when he gave me the boluses.
Post by jerseylovinliz on Jun 7, 2013 17:26:59 GMT -5
Well, I don't know if this'll help or not but I have never heard that & have given them many times to young calves. I'm not saying I'm highly qualified but I've done it, seen positive results & didn't kill any of the babies. Did they say why not to? I'm guessing it'd be b/c the rumen's not fully functioning & they won't get all the benefits?
Can you call the vet & just doublecheck if you're worried? Tell him/her what you read.
Never approach a bull from the front, a horse from the rear or a fool from any direction.
Post by simplynaturalfarm on Jun 8, 2013 16:44:03 GMT -5
It is hard on their bodies and when they ruminate it helps break the drug down so it is not so hard on their kidneys. It is not that great of a drug to use period, let alone prescribe to a preruminating critter who is stressed and needs no more organ stress.
I personally don't get why vets still prescribe sustain III. . .
Hmm. Well, I already gave it to him, so I guess I'll have to deal with whatever consequences I have.
Simplynaturalfarm, what would you recommend doing with a calf with blood and mucous in the manure, that won't eat? I'd always prefer a more natural approach, but will admit that the blood scared me.
My other calf (born here on the farm) was scouring some too, but he had no blood and was willing to eat so I just treated him with probiotics and electrolyte solution, and kept him warm and dry. He seems to be doing very well now.
I use it a lot here. The boss dumps anywhere from 20-30 orphan calves a year on me and if they start getting real scours, I often hit them with it. I've never lost a calf from using it, but I've lost one from not doing so. You just gotta decide for yourself what the first priority is in each case. Glad to your your second calf is doing better and I am sure this one will too.
When my calves scoured they went on and off eating for about a week. Just keep trying. Tube feed if necessary and make sure they are hydrated. I fed a half bottle of electrolytes (resorb) 3 hours after each feeding of milk. That seemed to keep mine alive until the antibiotics could do their job. Dehydration can cause them to go down really quick. Also your Vet seems like he genuinely cares when you ask questions so I would give him a call if you still have questions. Good luck!
Another thing you could ask the vet about is Sav-A-Calf Scours and Pneumonia Treatment that you put in the milk replacer. I had more luck with that treatment than any other.
Thanks for the encouragement. The calf is doing much better today--I talked to the vet again, and he prescribed another dose of antibiotics and banamine. It sure seems to have worked! He was eager for his bottle, and snorting around his pen, so that feels good.
From what I've read here sometimes they are over actors when being sick. SO the pain meds helps them get over them not feeling well so they can focus on eating and start getting better. Glad your calf is feeling better today
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