Post by snookiesmom on Jul 16, 2012 15:15:20 GMT -5
Hi I'm new on here. I have a summer yearling Jersey Heifer named Snookie. She is the only cow on my farm and there is no way she could be pregnant or have another animal nursing at her. I noticed a couple of weeks ago that she had developed a udder bag like a adult cow, before it was tiny and tucked up between her legs. I thought it was strange but since shes my first cow I thought maybe she had just hit puberty or something. Well last weekend I took her to the county fair dairy cow show and I had several people inquire how old she was and why she had such a large udder....sure enough the other calves in her division had no where near as big of an udder as Snookie. One dairyman said it could be caused by fly irritation? But I never see flies under her belly just on her head- she stays clean and her barn area is clean. I had another person tell me it may be due to eating clover? That clover has phytoestrogens in it that can cause udders to swell? Does anyone have any similar incidences of this happening? Any ideas how to fix it? I will try to post a picture later...she seems perfectly healthy and happy otherwise and it doesn't seem to be bothering her. THANKS!!
Last Edit: Jan 23, 2014 15:32:02 GMT -5 by barnydhppy
Could she possibly be nursing on herself? From what I've read on here, the self-nursers usually cause a lopsided udder because they are reaching only a single teat or maybe the two closest. Is her udder uniformly "developped"? There have been a few cases also reported here of very young heifers, as young as 6 months old, getting bred by accident. Is it possible she was bred before you got her?
I dont know if it does or not, but I have the same problem. I do have a steer with her same age. They both turned a year a couple of weeks ago. I noticed her last month...I have watched and watched and have yet to see the steer try and nurse her(never even go near her udder) and he never tried when he was a baby, they have been together since I bought them home at a week old. Her teats look fine like nothing has been sucking them. One day she will look a little bigger/puffy and the next day the udder looks normal. We do have quite a bit of clover.
I know a couple of my mares sometimes their bags will get fuller in the early spring when the clover and new grass is growing and not be pregnant...vet said it was spring grass.
Here is Precious pics
It also seems to be fuller when she is in heat...so I thought it was hormones.
Last Edit: Jul 16, 2012 16:09:26 GMT -5 by tnwlkr43
Post by snookiesmom on Jul 16, 2012 18:53:32 GMT -5
thanks so much for the replies...I've had snookie since she was 3 months old so there is no way/chance for her to be bred. Im really puzzled. I just went and took these pictures. It feels tight but not hot...I did notice a little waxy secretion coming out of her teats. Im worried. I think Im going to have to haul her in to the vet, otherwise she is perfectly happy and healthy running bucking grazing like normal. She is on a small pasture, clover/fescue/weeds/grass and I give her a non sweetened pelleted 12% purina cow chow. I wish I knew for sure what was causing this and how to treat it. I dont want it to affect her milk-ability later on down the line when I do decide to raise a calf.
Post by chaparra72 on Jul 16, 2012 19:40:43 GMT -5
Wow, that is way to much udder development! How old is she?
I have heard folks on hear who have told stories of bulls coming to breed their girls without them ever knowing it until they have a calf. Are you absolutely positive that this could not have happened in your case? Bulls can cross fences without any obvious clues, and can go back home before you ever knew they were here.
Interested to hear what the vet says! Hope all is well with your girl.
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I have heard of people milking a cow that has never calved, she just comes into milk. It is probably amazingly rare, but it can happen.
Biotracking might not be a bad idea at this point.
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There are precocious milkers, but I would double check she isn't pregnant. A bull can jump a fence with ease and head back over with out you ever knowing about it.
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Post by snookiesmom on Jul 17, 2012 8:11:57 GMT -5
theres no way she can be bred. shes in a barn paddock and is surrounded by electric fence and horse pastures on all sides....theres no way anything could get in or out. She turned a year old in late June. Thanks again for all the help I truly appreciate it-Snookie is very loved! Im going to take her to the vet and I will let you know what they say.
Her udder is much larger and filled than our heifer that isn't due until October. I'd also think that this girl is preggers or is actively being nursed on all four quarters. I'm very interested to hear what the vet has to say.
We had several pigs that were escaping into the cow pasture who started nursing on a heifer of mine and brought her into milk. She raised a calf and I was never able to actually get her bred....was 3yo, fat, and never bred when I got her so I knew it was a risk.
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Have you ever noticed her in heat or have you seen mucous coming from her backside? How swollen looking is her "who-ha" (kids' terminology). My guess is she's pregnant and pretty far along or something is nursing on all 4 quarters.
Wow that is really nice looking udder that she shouldn't have. So the vet will rule out pregnancy- which you are 99.90% sure she is not. Crazy if she is! This happens and not all that often. A heifer can develop an udder with milk in it with no pregnancy. Dr. Deittloff a vet for Organic Valley has seen it and mentions it is book. What exactly causes it? as you mentioned the clover...... or self sucking. although she looks fairly evenly developed for self sucking. or? So why don't we hear more of it? Dairies just put the girl in the milking line and get her bred asap. Small time owners- probably don't want to talk about it or just sell the heifer.
Post by BasleeBackwoodsFarm on Jul 18, 2012 7:42:14 GMT -5
Maybe some pictures from the rear showing her "lily" and of her belly from the back? Maybe someone here can give you an idea if she's just heavy or pregnant?
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Post by snookiesmom on Jul 19, 2012 10:48:26 GMT -5
Theres absolutely no way she is pregnant. She comes into heat every month and turns into a mooing, fence-walking, human-humping little monster. Plus she is not fat...shes in great shape otherwise. It has to be the clover/hormone imbalance. There is no other animal that could be nursing her unless it was a snake? and I dont think Snookie would allow anything to nurse as she would it kick it to kingdom come. I have the 1 cow and 5 horses but the horses cant get to her at all. I have talked to 3 different vets. Vet#1 said to milk the four quarters out and insert a dry cow treatment into the teat. Vet#2 said he would give her 2 shots of polyflex and milk it out. Vet#3 said to just leave it alone that it happens sometimes and it will just go away. The local vet didnt seem interested in me bringing her in. I just dont think they realize how big the udder is. I ordered some Quartermaster, but havent done anything to her just yet....I dont think shes going to be happy about being milked.
This is a dumb question(I am new to all of this) but what would happened if you just kept her milked and didnt dry her up until you got ready to breed her. With this not being normal would the milk still be good? Would you be risking problems later down the road?
Post by snookiesmom on Aug 2, 2012 15:06:53 GMT -5
Just a update...the other day we "milked" out all 4 quarters- (Snookie was amazingly cooperative!) and it was a clear fluid that came out. Her udder is still huge, but she seems happy and healthy and is running around like she owns the place so I guess just "let it be".......
I know this is an old thread and the OP was milking out the udder and seemed to working it out with the heifer....but here is so new info she might want to consider if she is feeding a high protein content
. Last week I was talking to a good friend who use to raise dairy cattle(now raises beef) he ask me if I was feeding 12 % protien and I said yes....he said to much protein can cause her built up fat in my heifer;s udder and if i continue give this that later on she might not be able to make enough milk for even a calf to suck...
She was getting 4lbs of grain, 1/2 scoop of timothy pellets and FC grass and hay. I now have her on a cup and 1/2 of feed, her timothy pellets and FC grass and hay. It does seem to have shrunken her udder slightly.
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