Does anyone here use their bull for stud service (is that what it is called with bulls?) Was told that Jersey bulls are used to breed young heifers for "waste calves." They wouldn't be waste calves here, I think a Jersey / Angus family milk cow would fit the bill for some families. Charlie, the bull, would be put with Angus heifers. I read that it is best to keep a Jersey bull with company so it has a double benefit. He is now with my Charolais heifer.
Are others doing this? Do you lease them out to breed other milk cows?
I have had a number of folks ask me to use my bull for stud service, but so far, I have only let one friend use either of my bulls. First, I am very worried about liability issues with a bull and would not let my bull go to someone else's home. Even though my bulls have both been easy going, what if they tear down someone's fence, or injure one of their animals or worse yet, injure a human? What if while he is there, he is not fed right or treated right? What if he becomes injured while there?
If I allow folks to bring their cows to the bull, what if their cow is injured? If the cow is lactating, I am responsible for milking her. I would have to feed that animal while they are at my house, etc. There just seems to be so many things that "could happen" that might cause problems.
On another note, what if the cow or herd that my bull is servicing is not clean and he brings home diseases?
How much is fair to charge?
I just end up with more questions than answers!
Last summer we moved my Miniature Jersey bull from one of our farms to the other and allowed him to service nine beef heifers. Seven of them are angus and the other two are angus/charolais cross. We have had three calves born so far.....two heifers and one bull calf born today. I am planning on taking the best calves after weaning and using them for dual purpose family cows.
Very important questions which need consideration. I never thought about letting him go anywhere though. Keeping him with his own kind, in his pasture is part of the agenda. Vaccinations and herd hygiene would be givens in this situation too. You've given me lots to consider. Thanks for the thoughts.
With the friend that I let use my bull for stud service, I knew that her cow had been tested and was clean when she brought her to my house. The only problem with having the cows come to your house is that unless someone is bringing a heifer to breed, if you are dealing with dairy cows the cow is more than likely going to be in milk. So, you will have to milk someone else's cow, or they will have to come to your house once or twice a day (depending on what schedule the cow is on) and milk her for the duration of the time she is at your house.
For my friend and I, it was not that big of a deal, but there are other cows out there that I really would not want to have to milk for someone while their cow was at my house for service.
I always feel badly telling people "no". I had someone yesterday ask and someone the day before as well. I know it is so hard for some folks to get their girls bred and I feel awful not accomodating them, but with most of them, they would not be able or want to pay me what I would have to have to make it worth my while.
Some folks don't "stress" about it like I do and just loan their bulls out. I think that is very "neighborly" of them to do that and I admire them for it, but for me, the risk is just too great.
You mention rate and abiity to pay so am curious if you've ever thought it through. How much would you ask? Charlie right now is in what was going to be the girl's milking pasture and I have the girls in what was going to be my hayfield. I think it would be a better pay off to graze that field instead of haying it. So I was thinking that to breed a dairy cow, I would also ask a boarding fee of maybe 5$/day plus keeping the milk. That would only be 3-4 cows for me to milk. I don't anticipate very many requests but they would be clean vaccinated/tested cows that are cooperative in a stanchion. . I've no idea what to charge for the bull service though. He has already attracted attention
You know, it's funny you should ask that because my friend and I were just talking about this the other day.
We were specifically talking about a mutual acquaintance who bought a Mini Jersey bull off of me and now wants to stud him out. If I can buy Mini Jersey Semen for $50 and straw and have someone AI, then I would not want to pay more than that to use a bull. With AI, I have a choice of many different bulls to choose from as well. So, I guess my thought would be to find out what it would cost to have a cow artificially inseminated and then make your stud service less in price than that amount.
Maybe someone else has actual experience and could chime in here!
AI techs do not travel out here for a couple of cows and my vet is not set up to handle semen so the comparison is not applicable but it is still helpful. Around here, a clean healthy black Jersey bull might bring $50 . Actually I wouldn't want to charge much more than that unless I find it is necessary. Thanks for your ideas. You've been very helpful. I haven't made any decisions butI think it might be a matter of days before I am asked about Charlie.
milkingoneand: Contact me off group and let me know exactly what you're looking for as I'm currently looking at heifers ready to breed soon. I have a couple of farm visits on my list, and might be able to help you out.
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FarmBoy66: Littlebirddog, get them started on grain, free choice. They also need to have water. Try to get them interested in it and then in small steps start taking their milk away. They should be fully weaned in about 2 weeks or so
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fairfarmhand: I love this place. No one else, even my husband understands why I'd do all the work, spend all the money, just to milk a cow.
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frauline214: oI am new to forum. I have a jersey/beef cow cross who is due to calve shortly. I plan on adding other calves to her after she calves. This is a first time freshener and she has been raised to let me milk her. Any suggestions how many calves I can add?
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squarant: have only highlands. sorry
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frauline214: okay hope some one is here my cow had her calf last night not sure how to tell if baby is getting milk
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Soma Gosala: Does someone know where I can buy A2 Jersey semen ?
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birdsongmilkmaid: Most AI companies test their bulls for beta casein type. Semex lists the type right on their website. If the company you are purchasing your semen from doesn't, send them an email and ask for a list of the beta casein type of the bulls that they offer.
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