I might be getting two more calves to drink all this milk and I should be able to get some Holstein cross calves from the local dairy that are most likely Angus crosses. I'm *told* they're going for about $10 ea. My question is I wonder if I should make sure to get heifers and raise them as potential family cows. Halter breaking, etc. I know Holsteins might not be all that desirable as a family cow due to the lower butterfat and high production but would the Angus part of the equation balance that out?
I don't think you'd get heifers for that price even if they are beef cross, that is probably priced for bull calves. They could have the potential for good milk cows. I have heard that Angus have quite high butterfat???
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bella is holstein angus cross.. pretty black cow with a bit of white onherudder and underside.. big bodied too andthis is her second year freshening i am told.. soo.. will let you know how she does.. her udder sure looks nice for a deflated bag lol.. nice teats..etc..
I think they would make nice family cows. You could breed to an Angus for beefy offspring or cross with Jersey for another family cow.
And yes, my sister reports the price of calves dropping at the dairy out there. Hopefully you'll find a deal.
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Post by buxombeefcowdairy on Jun 28, 2008 10:03:55 GMT -5
I would also think that these would be the bull calves, but dairies generally do sell all of their crossbred heifers. It is quite likely that they simply breed their heifers to a low-birthweight Angus bull for calving-ease. Also possible is that any cow who hasn't bred by AI goes in with the bull. In any case, this would leave you with a nice family cow prospect.
Yes, the Angus do have high butterfat. The five or six that I have milked (some just once or twice) leave a cream line like my Jersey cow does- there just isn't as much total milk from the Angus as the Jersey. You won't get the same creamline on a Holstein/Angus cross as you would on a Jersey or a Jersey/Angus, but you'll probably get lots of milk and there will be more cream than a straight Holstein will produce. If you want more cream in your drinking milk, you could just skim some extra off your pigs' milk to put in your own.
For a family cow, I would be most concerned about temperament. A lot of this you can influence if you raise your cow from a baby calf, but some reactions will be due to her inherited temperament traits. Ask the dairyman if the bull is easy to deal with. Bulls act like bulls (shoving things with their heads, pawing dirt, herding their cows around) but beyond the testosterone influence, he will be spooky/flighty or easygoing, or somewhere in between. If he is Ferdinand-ish, (mellow fellow!), his daughters will likely be that way too. (Of course, the dam gives the calf half of her genetics, too. Don't get a heifer calf from a cow whose name is Crazy B@#$.)
An Angus/Holstein will probably get fairly large, probably 1500 pounds or so. She'll probably have a thicker haircoat and more ability to put on backfat, so she'll be easier to keep warm in the winter. The black coat means she'll need more shade in the summer than a fawn-colored Jersey (Jerseys are known for heat tolerance, too). Extra muscle and more moderate milk production than a straight dairy cow will mean less risk of milk fever, though I won't say she could never get milk fever.
I think an Angus/Holstein could make a dandy family cow.
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I would think that price is for their bull calves. Jersey bull calves go for about $10 each in PA from what I have been told. Holstein bull calves around here fluctuate in price from around 30 to 60 dollars each. IF that is the price of a heifer calf and she is not a free martin, then by all means, what a deal!!!!!!!
(Of course, the dam gives the calf half of her genetics, too. Don't get a heifer calf from a cow whose name is Crazy B@#$.)
Same goes for "Nervous Nelly"!! And I'd also think twice about "Ninja" or any name that reflects jumping ability.
It sounds like a joke, I know, but there's a lot of truth there. I'd be inclined to say that the dam gives more than 50% of the temperment (possibly through the mitocondrial DNA). Some traits can carry through a maternal line for many generations irregardless of the sires used. So you definitely don't want the daughters of cows that have names relating to their temperment/behavioral flaws.
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