Post by heartshape8 on Jun 27, 2008 10:52:23 GMT -5
Was reading old posts, trying to figure out possible cause of green runny, not pumkin pie-like poo and saw this term. And a reference to kicking her stomach. And I remember watching her do this a couple of days ago.
Can anyone tell me about that? and do cows normally kick stomach for any other reason? At the time, i was just feeling bad for her about the flies.
Post by heartshape8 on Jun 27, 2008 12:05:31 GMT -5
she has good grass with about 10 percent alfalfa, 40 percent white and red clover between morning and evening milkings. After that she has a going dry blue fescue native mix pasture. For the first two days we got her, her stool showed the adjustment. I think that's a lot more grass and richer, than she has been on. She has been filling out scince here. but I can still count 5 ribs easy. she has a little sweet feed and beet pulp at milking. The beet pulp is new to her. But her pats have been nice untill now. Yesterday I had her staked too close I think now, to the septic out lines, kitchen, laundry, some of which (Not, as far as I know, any toilet lines) out in the orchard. I'm wondering if that was too much, as the grass and clover there is very green and tall- or she picked up bad bacteria stuff there.
Post by heartshape8 on Jun 27, 2008 19:31:55 GMT -5
was on meager grass, kept mostly in a dirt lot with two hours or so out on a pretty good pasture. But this, I've never seen. Only been told. I thought bloat was something that comes on suddenly, ana imediate concequence. Do you know if it can build up over the course of a week or two?
Post by buxombeefcowdairy on Jun 27, 2008 21:11:31 GMT -5
They can get quite round, with a bloat reaction, before they get into trouble with bloat. When bloat becomes an emergency is at the point that they can no longer belch excess gas. Usually this is because their rumen is full of froth (like a washing machine with too much soap).
A change in diet is best over a series of days. But it sounds to me like she just got something disagreeable (maybe it upset her existing rumen flora) in the gray water.
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You can prevent bloat somewhat by feeding hay (grass or a very stemmy alfalfa if you have no other) before putting them out on pasture. Is she getting any hay right now, regardless of the grass? It is part of a better program to always have at least a little hay available even if they choose not to eat it. With lush pasture you can get into other problems with out hay.
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As Lesli says, hay will help control bloat if that is what she has. If she was underfed, as seems likely from what you say, she will eat a lot of grass as fast as she can. This does risk bloat. Feed the hay before she goes onto the grass so that her rumen is partly full. This is usually all it takes to control bloat.
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